Time to update the dynasty post again! 2 years since the last update, I am somewhat overdue on finding out for you what dynasties are new, in place, or ending.
I believe that the best teams and players are those who reach the top levels
and defeat the top competition, and get knocked down, and get back up again.
A dynasty is established by a player or sport who leads their group,
team/league through to the highest level of competition, through playoffs,
up the title game/series, for a period of at least 3 consecutive years.
Should that period be interrupted for 2 years, the dynasty continues, until
he/she/they cannot reach the top level a 3rd year. The dynasty can still
continue, tho, if our subject reclaims the top level from another, and only
one other to have at least 2 consecutive years at the top. Again, top
meaning league/conference title, up to the overall league championship
(World Series, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup), or, for an individual sport that
doesn’t have eliminations, winning outright.
The Yankees won 8 titles between 1996 and 2003, establishing
a dynasty only interrupted by the Indians and Angels, one year each. For the
dynasty to continue, the Yankees would have had to win the league by 2006,
or, if one other team won (leading to a dynasty) instead in the ‘gap’, and
the Yankees reclaimed from there, the streak would continue. Boston would
win in 2004, White Sox in 2005, and the Tigers in 2006, and the Yankees
didn’t get back until 2009. Boston came close to producing a dynasty,
having won in ’04 and ’07 but not winning by 2010.
Currently these teams are eligible to build a dynasty:
Kansas City (must reach the World Series in 2018 or 2019)
Cleveland (must clinch in 2018)
Houston (clinch by 2020)
Going back in time since the playoff era, here are all the dynasties in the
Minnesota comes close, winning in 1987 and 1991, interrupted by the
Athletics in the interim years, but could not win another title by 1995
(skipping the 1994 strike year). Ditto the Indians, winning in 1995 and
1997, interrupted only by those Yankees. After 2003, Cleveland would have
had to bookend that streak with a title but they have not been back since.
Teams that can build dynasties:
New York (must get to the Series in 2018)
Chicago (by 2019)
Los Angeles (by 2020)
No dynasties in the playoff era met each other in the playoffs, but of
course did meet in the regular season. That would be, as we can guess,
Walter Alston’s Dodgers and Sparky Anderson’s Big Red Machine, from 1974 to
1976. The Dodgers won the season series 12-6, and in runs, 79 to 57. The
margin was different in 1975, as they won just 18 against the Reds, losing
in the run department, 69 to 64. Cincy would be the thorn in the Dodgers
side in 1976, as they would win 13 of 18, and outscore LA 77-57. Couldn’t
you just imagine what those contests in 1975 were like? And, that 3-year
period, 1974 to 1976 gave us 3 dynasty teams at once. Maybe baseball was
never better than that time. A long way down to the upstarts and parity that
baseball has given us since.
Dynasties did collide in the World Series, as you can imagine, in these
1970 (Orioles over Reds)
1972 (A’s over Reds)
1974 (A’s over Dodgers)
1976 (Reds over Yankees)
1977, 1978 (Yankees over Dodgers)
1981 (Dodgers over Yankees)
1996, 1999 (Yankees over Braves)
1988 was the first year 2 teams not of dynasty type met in the Series. The
Dodgers had a singular year, and still won, thanks to Gibby, while Oakland
would get back to the series in 1990).
Let’s go further back in time to see what dynasties were made before the
NY Yankees 1921-1943
NY Yankees 1947-1964
And the NL:
Chicago White Stockings 1880-1886
Boston Beaneaters 1891-1898
Baltimore Orioles 1894-1896
Brooklyn (Bridegrooms-Superbas) 1890-1900
Pittsburgh Pirates (1901-1909)
NY Giants (1904-1913)
Chicago Cubs (1906-1910)
NY Giants (1921-1924)
St. Louis (1926-1934)
NY Giants (1933-1937)
St. Louis (1942-1946)
NY Giants (1951-1954)
St. Louis (1964-1968)
The clashes of titans in the World Series occurred in these years. With less
teams and more familiar foes, there was a lot of repeats:
1907, 1908: Cubs/Det
1921, 1922: Giants/Yankees
1926: St. Louis/Yankees
1931: St. Louis/Phila
NFL football dynasties in the Super Bowl era:
Baltimore Colts (1961-1970)
Cleveland Browns (1963-1968)
Oakland Raiders (1967-1969)
Miami Dolphins (1971-1973)
Denver Broncos (1986-1989)
Indianapolis Colts (2006-2009)
So there was a period of 5 years, 1963 to 1967 that included 4 contending
teams between 2 leagues, then 1975-76 involving 3 teams, and 2006-09
involving 3 more in the same conference.
Outside of the Patriots continuing their outstanding dynasty, only the Broncos can actually build one but must get to the Super Bowl in the current or next season to make this happen. Seattle can build a dynasty by reaching the Super Bowl this season as well. Atlanta has this and 2 more seasons, Carolina has this and next season.
Note that I include teams from the AFL that participated in the AFL
championship as well.
Football dynasties have clashed in the Super Bowl in these years, Roman
I (1966 season): Packers over Chiefs
VIII (1973): Dolphins over Vikings
IX(1975): Steelers over Vikings
X (1976): Steelers over Cowboys
XIII(1978) : Steelers over Cowboys
XXVII (1992): Cowboys over Bills
XXVIII (1993): Cowboys over Bills. These two also had met in the 1993
regular season, week 2. Buffalo would go 2-0 with a late 13-10 victory in
Counting Stanley Cup finals-participants from 1967-68 to the present (the
first big expansion of the league):
St. Louis (1968-1970)
NY Islanders (1980-1984)
NJ Devils (2000-2003)
Chicago must get to the finals in 2018 to keep theirs going.
Pittsburgh can be added to this list if they can get to the finals in this or the next 2 seasons.
Tampa Bay, San Jose and Nashville also are eligilble to build dynasties.
Stanley Cup finals between dynasties:
1968-9: Montreal/St. Louis
1970: Boston/St. Louis
1983: NY Islanders/Edmonton
1984: Edmonton/NY Islanders
Philly, Boston, Montreal were running dynasties at once from 1974 to 1976.
Was hockey any better than this period?
And here’s some 1974 history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSLXSxIjfok
Minneapolis Lakers (1949-1954)
Syracuse Nationals (1950-1955)
St. Louis Hawks (1957-1961)
Boston Celtics (1958-1969)
Minn./LA Lakers (1959-1973)
NY Knicks (1970-1973)
Washington Bullets (1975-1979)
LA Lakers (1980-1991)
San Antonio (1999-2007)
LA Lakers (2000-2004)
LA Lakers (2008-2010)
Golden State (2015-present)
Miami’s dynasty can extended through the 2018 season, if they get to the conference finals in this season (2017-18)
Cleveland and Golden State simply have to get back to the finals in the next 3 seasons to prolong their dynasty.
Eligible teams to complete a dynasty: San Antonio (must get to the finals in 2018)
NBA Finals that included a pair of dynasties:
1958: St. Louis/Boston
1960-1: Boston/St. Louis
1962-3, 1965-6, 1968-69: Boston/LA
1970: NY Knicks/LA
1972: LA/NY Knicks
1973: NY Knicks/LA
1980, 1982: LA/Philly
1985, 1987: LA/Boston
2015-2017 Golden State/Cleveland
Along with the recent Miami/Cleveland/Golden State troika, there were 3 rivalries ongoing in 1959-1561, and in 1981-1983. Imagine the
vitriol between the Sixers and Celtics. Actually, do more than imagine:
Now we’ll swing over to NASCAR, focusing on the Sprint Cup and its own
Ned Jarrett (1961-65)
Richard Petty (1964-67)
David Pearson (1966-69)
Richard Petty (1971-79)
Cale Yarborough (1976-78)
Darrell Waltrip (1981-1985)
Dale Earnhardt, Sr (1986-94)
Jeff Gordon (1995-2001)
Tony Stewart (2002-11)
Jimmie Johnson (2006-present)
Drivers who can build a dynasty: Kevin Harvick, who can win this year or next.
The Stewart/Johnson battle, 6 years in all) was the first battle of
dynasties since Petty/Yarborough, which put the sport on the national map
and beyond, 1976-1978.
http://www.racing-reference.com says that Stewart and Johnson have raced in the
same 420 races. In that span, Johnson managed the better positioning, wins,
top 5s and 10.
Here are the 3 races where either of them finished 1-2 to each other with
the closest finishes:
2013 Coke Zero 400 at Daytona http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKN4Wwc5qS8
2006 Aaron’s 499 at Talladega http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD5zKeqOZ6o
2009 Coke Zero http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgd23wLlltw
And as for Petty/Yarborough, they dueled for 520 races, from 1959 to 1988.
And the stats are quite even:
Petty had 274 better finishes to Cale’s 246, and had more top 5’s (255-243),
top 10s (324-300), and better finishing position (11.4-12.3). Cale outpoints
the King in actual wins, though: 82 to 75.
The closest finish between them in a 1-2 finish was in 1976, the Music City
USA 420, in Nashville:
IndyCar (since 1996):
Dario Franchitti (2007-2011)
Eligible to build a dynasty: Simon Pageneau, Josef Newgarden.
Scott Dixon had 3 years to build a dynasty, but finished 3 in the season.
F1 (since 1950):
Juan Manuel Fangio (1951-57)
Jackie Stewart (1969-73)
Alain Prost (1985-89)
Ayrton Senna (1988-1991)
Michael Schumacher (2000-04)
Sebastian Vettel (2010-2013)
Lewis Hamilton (2014-present)
Eligible to build a dynasty: Nico Rosberg
Interesting that the Prost/Senna duel were the only dynasties that ever
clashed here. How did they do in the head-to-head? Glad you asked: They
were part of 141 races together, with Prost getting the better of Senna 71
to 70. Prost also ranks ahead on all the other categories. In 1988, either
driver finished 1-2 to each other 10 times; in 1989, 4 such races.
The closest 1-2 finish between the McLaren-Honda owned racers was the 1988
Hungarian Grand Prix. You watch and guess who won. Here’s Part 1
For tennis I’m focusing on the men’s singles Tour championship, currently
stylized as the ATP World Tour finals.
Ilie Nastase (1971-1975)
Ivan Lendl (1981-1987)
Pete Sampras (1991-1999)
Boris Becker (1992-1995)
Roger Federer (2003-2011)
Novak Djokovic (2012-present)
Novak has 2 years (this and next) to extend his dynasty. Andy Murray has 3 years (until 2019) to build to his 1 title.
1994 and 2012 were the only times two players currently in a dynasty met in
the finals of the ATP championship match
1994: Sampras/Becker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fAh3_T5EZ0
2012: Federer/Djokovic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-HgQD61IMc
As for the ladies, here’s the WTA Championship dynasties:
Chris Evert (1972-1977)
Martina Navratilova (1978-1986)
Steffi Graf (1987-1996)
Monica Seles (1990-1992)
Serena Williams (2008-present)
Petra Kvitova, who won in 2011, is the only player who can build up a
Graf/Seles never met in the WTA Final but they’ve locked horns 6 times in
Grand Slam finals: Seles won twice at the French, once at the Australian.
Graf was the victor in their lone matchup at Wimbledon, and two wins at the
Here’s how the 1992 French Open turned out between them: